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Old 08-19-2009, 07:20 PM
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Cool Plates

I found a way!
pics first



Ive been Dying to try this stuff out and made a kind of Ghetto rig work.

(Weapons of mass destruction)
1 Broken burr sharpend to what is as close to a point i May have seen on this forum as i could get w a sanding disc. so there was no geometry to my madness.
and an old PowerGrave system that belongs to my boss, complete with Dust! Oh and a micro ball.

so there it is, Next time ill try laying down a design first and planning out.
i really just wanted to see if i could control or even make a cut, curved or staight.
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Old 08-19-2009, 07:36 PM
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Hi,

Very nice first practice plate...

Much better than my first, Keep up the good work.

You really tried some of the tecniques from this forum that are a bit advanced for a first plate.

You have to admit it is fun...

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Old 08-20-2009, 09:55 PM
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Thanks for the kind words.
oh yea, had a blast doin it. once i found a tip that could cut it seemed comfortable and rythmic, i stopped when i had it filled w enough nonsense.

is there a fine line between things i should even try at this point?
i cant wait to try finer instruments.

I found the Powergrave very heavy and had hold it like a strongman grip to keep control, the tip of it if you dont hold it still will jump around with about a 5mm gap when running so constant presure was needed.
Microball was just way too small and moved around too much.
The bur... well lets just say for now its all i got.
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Old 08-20-2009, 11:46 PM
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Well,

It looks like you are hooked....

You should really save up a bit and get a artisan and the universal template for sharpening a real point...

http://airgraver.com/Hand_Engraving_Tools_Overview.htm

You think that was fun, You ant seen nothing yet...

Check out the airgraver network and see if someone that has a airgraver is on the list near you. Give them a call and give it a try. You will love it...

If you are in Arizona you are welcome to give my classic a try...

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Old 08-21-2009, 01:18 AM
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I plan on gettn some *Real* tools, after October. vacca)
ill have to keep that in mind incase im out to visit my Uncle bill in Tucson.
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Old 08-21-2009, 08:44 AM
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SoCo,

Like AirAmp said save up and get a Artisan or a Classic if you can, you won't get that drift you where talking about with Steve's tools and won't need to build up you arms to keep them under control.

By the way I was raised in Arlington, Tx. what part are you in? I miss living there and have thought about moving back to my homeland or to Oklahoma where my sister is. I know don't say it that's OU country but my family go back in Texas for over 200 years I know how to defend the Longhorn pride from the OU fans.

No offense to you OU fans.

Kevin
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Old 08-21-2009, 11:35 PM
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That is looking pretty good, a lot better then my hand pushed scribbles

Peter
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Old 08-22-2009, 07:04 AM
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thx much guys!

Leyroy I live in sugarLand right close to Houston. and (SoCo) is the correct reffrence.

Plan on getting a Classic+ other goodies, was considering the artisian but @ this point i think itd be wiser to spring for a classic. (till it makes enough $ to get a Palm)
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Old 08-22-2009, 09:27 AM
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Default Re: Plates, "Powergrave"

Soco, Are you sure your system is called a "powergrave"? I googled it and did not find anything. The reason for the death grip needed is probably your graver geometry and not the machine. Without proper geometry you have to fight what your graver wants to do. My guess is the the machine can't be to bad because your plates show results that very few people can attain on their first try unless they have been tutored before hand. Buy some proper gravers and the Lindsay template for sharpening and I bet it will make a huge difference with your control and and won't need as strong of a grip. Also find out exactly what your machine is called and someone here should be able to help with maybe adjusting it or etc so the tip does not jump around. Kevin Scott
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Old 08-22-2009, 09:44 AM
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Hi Kevin,

A Powergraver is made by fordom tools.

It is a flex shaft machine that turns at 2800 rpm and has a hammer engraving head on it. Interesting tool.

http://www.gesswein.com/catalog/cata...ub=1&catalog=1

For the money you are much better off with a Artisan Airgraver.

Lighter, no flex shaft, self contained and much more power. You dont have to fight the shaft when engraving.


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Old 08-22-2009, 04:45 PM
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ha ha i wish is was my Eyeball cut bur that was the reason for the strong grip.
If i run the machine without holding the collet where the graver is held, the point literaly bounces with a random 5mm gap to any wich way.
so holding the end firmly is Manditory.(mayb a defective Handpiece?)
also the heavy cable to the motor is a bother.

other than that the motor operates fairly well, hes got an external speed control (Via Dial) so the pedal doesnt control speed just off and on. theres an adjustment on the back to change the strenth of what my guess is a spring. i run it as Light as possible.

but like i said before its an Old machine that until this week was Only used to tighten up channels and beat metal down onto stones being set.

Ive felt so drawn to Hand engraving since ive discoverd it, i figured ill work with whatever means necisary.
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