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Phil Coggan · #1 01-25-2009, 10:01 AM

This is the start of No.1 of a pair of 'Stock' guns for Holland& Holland. The scenes will be carved.
Phil

SVD · #2 01-25-2009, 12:05 PM

Great stuff Phil!

Thanks for sharing the progression with us.

In the first shot, have you already cut the main lines or is that just a freshly transferred layout? If they're cut did you do a transfer or just draw directly on the metal? I know from what you've posted before that you probably have quite detailed drawings of how it will look when done but I'm curious as to whether or not you take advantage of modern technology or your artistic skills to put on the initial layout.

Daniel Houwer · #3 01-25-2009, 01:11 PM

Hello Phill,

Wauw, that's really something! Thanks so much for showing this :whoo:
Great for me to see how the steps follow each other.
That chuck you have in your airgraver, is that to be compatible with your sharpening device? And if you are shading there, what angle are you using?
Like the size of your graver too. Nice and small so you can see where the point is.
Hopefully whe get to see the rest of the progress in stages too

Daniel

Phil Coggan · #4 01-25-2009, 01:51 PM

Steve,
Those are the first cuts, these days I use lots of Photoshop, it saves a lot of time, I then transfer with Tom White's system.

Daniel,
That 'Chuck' as you call it is something that Steve Lindsay and I came up with, it allows you to extend the graver so you've always got an easy working possition. It also allows you to get the use of nearly all of the tool, almost down to the end. I find it very comfortable to hold too.

The angles are 45 deg. with about a 60 deg. face.

Phil

stefan albert · #5 01-25-2009, 03:29 PM

FANTASTIK

Stefan

Herman Knives · #6 01-25-2009, 06:07 PM

Phil, absolutely gorgeous! Is that your 90V tool with no heel? Thanks so much for the work in progress photos, that is such a great help.

SVD · #7 01-25-2009, 06:29 PM

Thanks Phil!

I couldn't tell for sure and figured it was worth asking. Your cuts are so clean they look like the lines of a very clean transfer.

Dave London · #8 01-25-2009, 06:58 PM

Thanks Phil
Great photos and fantastic design, appears that you did the background/negative space removal first?.
Steve a tool I dont know about

Tools someone say tools,Help I am a addict:smilie

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ron · #9 01-25-2009, 07:25 PM

hi Phil .. thanks for sharing with us your work , i see that you cut your back ground out before you do your shading ,, i do just the opposite .. ron p

Phil Coggan · #10 01-26-2009, 01:53 AM

Ron,
I cut all the background first, on this one it's quite shallow because of the design, but on some of my other guns it's a lot deeper. I like to do the fine work last there's less chance of marking it that way, and also it's a lot easier to make out the design and see what's what.

Dave,
You don't know about that extention piece because it's the only one around......talk nicely to Steve!

Phil

jlseymour · #11 01-26-2009, 05:11 AM

Phil, Your scroll is beautiful... That is something!!!

Now you have started a talk nice to Steve, I want one of the extension Steve, pretty please...

Jerry

carl bleile · #12 01-26-2009, 03:30 PM

Phil, great work as usual but do you ever get away from the bench.
I think your tool extention is realy a double spring loaded chip flipper to attain greater arc and distance so that you can get all the chips in a trash can across the room.
Carl Bleile
southwest, Ohio

Daniel Houwer · #13 01-26-2009, 03:55 PM

Thank you Carl! :smilie

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Does it have a Lindsay pattent?

Steve Lindsay · #14 01-26-2009, 05:08 PM

Phil, Your art layout/designs are always just amazing. Thanks again for sharing the pictures of your work!

Quote:

Originally Posted by carl bleile

double spring loaded chip flipper to attain greater arc and distance so that you can get all the chips in a trash can across the room.

Carl, What a good idea! I'll get right on it... back to the drawing board.

Steve

Dave London · #15 01-26-2009, 09:51 PM

Dang Steve
You know I just have to have one, please pretty please:smilie

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You have my address, probally on speed shiping Dave

Phil Coggan · #16 01-27-2009, 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carl bleile

Phil, great work as usual but do you ever get away from the bench.
I think your tool extention is realy a double spring loaded chip flipper to attain greater arc and distance so that you can get all the chips in a trash can across the room.
Carl Bleile
southwest, Ohio

Carl,
Ok, you've sussed it, I have to admitt about the chip flicking gadget, I have a big bin at the other end of the room (already half full) and if i'm good the chips fly right into it!

Phil

Ddbltrbl · #17 01-27-2009, 03:29 AM

I'm with Dave... it's a tool!

I've got to have one! :willy_nilly:

Does Steve take bribes?

Next, we'll be havin a contest for Chip Flippin for Distance.

Danny C · #18 01-27-2009, 01:20 PM

Phil
Do you just make up the design and get it all approved or do H&H (in this case) suggest what they would like and you guys go back and forth to finalize?

Phil Coggan · #19 01-28-2009, 01:37 AM

Hi Danny,
In this case H&H had the idea, ie. large scroll with carved scenes,and they leave it to me, I think they know by now that they'll get something back that's not half bad.

I don't do customer drawings, customers can't see the final product from working drawings, they need the full works, shading and all. This can take many days and then they say, ok, go ahead, or worse "I like them, but, can you re-do them and change that tiny area in the corner!!"

Sometimes as with the Roosevelt gun there is a two-ing and fro-ing with ideas though.

Phil

WVEngraver · #20 01-28-2009, 07:32 PM

Fantastic work!! As always ... highly appreciative of the opportunity to peek over your shoulder.

Steve made an extension for me as well but it is a set length and it fits into the standard collet. It's a simple little accessory that adds a great deal of control to the tool as the graver gets shorter. I hope Steve offers these in varied lengths. Indexed with the collet's set screws, they would work well for switching fast between odd shaped gravers and flats too.

Chris