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Old 01-16-2009, 11:44 AM
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Looks like everyone has gone or is going to Reno, so here's something for the rest to look at even if the pics are a bit fuzzy!
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Old 01-16-2009, 12:17 PM
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Looks like everyone has gone or is going to Reno, so here's something for the rest to look at even if the pics are a bit fuzzy!
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Hi Phil, I'm still here. I won't be at Reno this year.
These pics aren't so fuzzy! Another beautiful job! How long ago was this one completed?

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Old 01-16-2009, 12:44 PM
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About six years ago Steve, by the way my emails are back on, i'll mail you soon.

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Old 01-16-2009, 01:00 PM
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Perfect. I see some wonderful multi-color inlay. Not so simple!!



I suppose I should be going to Reno but it looks like I'm in good company.

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Old 01-16-2009, 01:19 PM
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Absolutely beautiful work. I love all the varying design elements, especially the diagonal gold wire criss cross pattern.
Do you carve that all from gold sheet or do you cast the inlay pieces first to achieve the extra high relief?
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Old 01-16-2009, 01:40 PM
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Phil, I'm with Steve and Chris, I will not be going this year and I keep having to saying not this year,and it hurts... IT'S A GREAT GATHERING OF SOME OF THE BEST OF THE BEST...
The JEWELRY SALES THIS YEAR WAS THE WOREST IN 15 YRS...
I HAVE SPENT ALL MY EXTRA MONEY ON SETTING UP MY STUDEO FOR ENGRAVING
AS A (KEEP ME BUSY AFTER I RETIRE IN 05/09...)
I HAVE A SISTER IN GERMANY FOR 15YRS AND WOULD LOVE TO SPEND A MONTH IN EUROPE TO SEE ALL THE THINGS WE IN AMERICA HAVE NOT SEEN...
THANKS FOR ALL YOU SHARE WITH US ALL...
HOPE TO MEET YOU SOME DAY...
STEVE SAID HE WILL BE AT THE BLADE SHOP IN ATLANTA, GA AT THE END OF MAY AND SCOTTS engrave-in...
Try to do this one, we love to have you vist...
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Old 01-16-2009, 02:54 PM
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Thank you Phil for posting such beautiful work. You are indeed a master craftsman.
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Old 01-16-2009, 03:08 PM
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Phil

Is 'simple' another one of those words that has completely different meanings in the US vs the UK?

Someday, God willing, I'll be able to do parts of that. Not sure I'll ever be able to make it to that level but I plan to have fun trying!
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Old 01-16-2009, 05:37 PM
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Hi Phill,
Yep, I agree, Simple Gold Job. Nice effect for such a simple job though. I have looked at it and think I can do this no problem. 5 a day.
The only problem was waking up and looking at youre (behind closed eyes) simple job again.
Jou must be teasing us just a bit on the "simple" side.

Thanks for showing,

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Old 01-16-2009, 06:12 PM
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Jerry, we should discuss the engraving business as it pertains to the oncoming s***ty economy.

It seems to be some sort of taboo on the forums and I'm surprised no-one has started a thread. Maybe we could all come up with some ideas that might ease the fall.

I thought I might be selling my Harley but I'm having second thoughts after you mentioned a ride through the Smokeys.

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Old 01-16-2009, 06:40 PM
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hey Phil ... fantastic work as always and those photo are just as great , thanks for posting ,, and i will not be in Reno this year or may not be for a while , so i am in better co.here,,,,,, any way ..i guess i am fortunate , i have a bench full of work ,, well for now any way ron p
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Another fantastic job thanks for the photos keep them coming:whoo:
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Old 01-16-2009, 08:35 PM
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Phil that simple job is utterly fantastic Thanks for posting it for us.
Well I'm not going to Reno either. Too Freaking cold up there. Chris I would love to meet you in the smokies this summer sometime, I try to ride up there at least once a year. Rets me out of the heat.
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Wow... I've been a big fan now for about a decade. Fantastic!
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Old 01-17-2009, 12:56 AM
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Absolutely beautiful work. I love all the varying design elements, especially the diagonal gold wire criss cross pattern.
Do you carve that all from gold sheet or do you cast the inlay pieces first to achieve the extra high relief?
The criss cross is inlayed with wire which is thinner than 0.2mm.
The raised gold is from sheet, inlayed and then carved.
Jerry,
It would be nice to meet all you guys sometime.

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Old 01-17-2009, 04:28 AM
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Hi Phil,
Can I ask you how thik your overlay sheet metal was?
I was playing with in and overlays yesterday using sheet of 0.1 to 1mm.
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Old 01-17-2009, 05:17 AM
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Good day Phil,
May be the only simple thing about this is that You are simply a master at what you are doing.

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Old 01-17-2009, 06:36 AM
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Chris sounds good, start one on in the watercooler, there got to be some good ideas from all the engravers on the forum...
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Old 01-17-2009, 08:06 AM
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Phil,

I hate it when people ask me this question. How long does a project like that take to complete?

It hard for me to imagine how you could get more than a couple guns like that done per year. Maybe 4-5 at most. Is that about right?
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Old 01-17-2009, 08:38 AM
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For a bird that size the sheet I used was about 0.5mm. thick, and John you're not far out with 4to 5.

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Old 01-17-2009, 08:46 AM
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Thank's!
Is there a rule for material thickness on overlay's? Or is it just how deep you want to be able to engrave on them that decide's the thickness.
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Old 01-17-2009, 08:56 AM
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There's no rule on the thickness, it's a matter of taste, but for carving, if it's too thin it will be difficult to get the roundness. Over a certain thickness it will lock gross.
If you want to get that thick look without spending a lot on thicker gold, just cut away the metal from inside the edge of the birds and then undercut, leaving the centre proud. Key this as usual.

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Old 01-18-2009, 12:55 AM
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Phil,

Thank you for these dazzling examples of your art and mastery of technique!
So generous!

I will drive over the 7200 foot Donner Pass to Reno if the snow is not too bad. Aer Lingus has some good flights from Dublin to San Francisco. I have room in my mini van and a few extra guitars, if you feel like going to Reno? A few of us get to pickin' and strummin' late in the evening.

Steve, we will miss you this year!

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:crazy: stunning work, thanks for share
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