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Old 11-23-2015, 03:49 AM
Joacim Jansson Joacim Jansson is offline
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Default Extra Negativ which makes it Positive

Extra negative is the one that I got help from Steve to develop, which I use
to engrave text inside the rings
So now I can finally use Carbide to do this.
Also found another use for it, as I show in the video I have done.
please bear with my Swenglish :-)





Here I show how to grind with the extra Negative Temple

Start by marking the graver at 5/8 or 16mm


I start to grind the sides


At the mark you made, remember that stone height should be 3/4"


Grind equally on both sides so you can achieve (about) 0.005 "or 1,27mm


Then proceed to do the negative relief, point.


Take a little on each side at a time


Until you achieve this result


Turn it over and continue, being careful not to break the graver by pressing the wrong place


Grind until you achieve a thickness of 0.047"or 1.2mm


Then switch to the bigg temple, and start to grind the face


And end with making the heels of the length that suits you best.
I usually do my 0.006"or 0.15mm long


Finally, round off the little behind where you grind so it will not be sharp for the fingers


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Old 11-23-2015, 08:00 AM
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Default Re: Extra Negativ which makes it Positive

All i get when I click on the item is "Invalid Attachment" ???
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Old 11-23-2015, 10:24 AM
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Default Re: Extra Negativ which makes it Positive

Hi
Me too ,I get the same ,but its mentioned to inform the administrator.
What is the "V" angle on it ?
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Old 11-23-2015, 10:55 AM
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Default Re: Extra Negativ which makes it Positive

Hi Crazy Horse and SE,
Joacim emailed the photos and I placed them on the server. They should be working now.
Thanks again Joacim!
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Old 11-23-2015, 03:32 PM
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Default Re: Extra Negativ which makes it Positive

a fabulous tutorial . even without text, the fotos clearly show how to achieve your grind. i would think this to be quite valuable to many engravers. thank very much for taking the time to share this !!!!!!!
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Old 11-24-2015, 01:30 AM
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Default Re: Extra Negativ which makes it Positive

My first youtube video, hope you can stand my Swenglish :-)

It shows what you can use to engrave with it
Please experiment with the temple, so perhaps you will find something that is not I done.

https://youtu.be/s_ugTrjBLnY
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Old 11-24-2015, 01:50 AM
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My first youtube video, hope you can stand my Swenglish :-)

It shows what you can use to engrave with it
Please experiment with the temple, so perhaps you will find something that is not I done.

https://youtu.be/s_ugTrjBLnY
HI Joacim J
What is the "V" angle on the template ?
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Old 11-24-2015, 02:04 AM
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Default Re: Extra Negativ which makes it Positive

Sorry SE if I do not understand what you mean, but v-angle be made on the tip is 96 degrees if that's what you think.
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Old 11-24-2015, 05:31 AM
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Sorry SE if I do not understand what you mean, but v-angle be made on the tip is 96 degrees if that's what you think.
Hi Joacim
Thats the one,thank you.
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Old 11-25-2015, 01:37 PM
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Default Re: Extra Negativ which makes it Positive

the video is very good. it shows a great possibility for those wanting to do inside rings. thanks for taking time to show this.
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Old 12-28-2015, 02:36 AM
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Hi Joacim,

I would like to ask can one use Jocim's small template on 1/2" bench-stone height to taper the sides of gravers, if yes the template can put straight left and right side on the graver?

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Old 12-28-2015, 06:39 AM
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Hi Joacim
I have seen in the video it takes the corners off at 3/4" assuming it will do the same at 1/2" I have requested for one.

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Old 12-28-2015, 11:34 AM
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Default Re: Extra Negativ which makes it Positive

Hello Joacim, Thanks for this graver as I have begun experimenting with it and I like the control you get with it for inside rings. It takes a little getting used to because of being used to holding the graver in a higher angle but with a bit of practice it is another great tool in the arsenal.
Thanks again,
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Old 01-06-2016, 10:49 AM
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Default Re: Extra Negativ which makes it Positive

I do not quite understand what you mean SEngraver?
But you can not use the 1/2 height, to get the sides tapperd. it must be 3/4.
You will understand when you try.

Rodsta
I'm glad to hear that you like it. it offers many new opportunities.
But the most happy I am to have a Carbide graver that works for engraving inside the rings nowadays, this temple makes it possible.
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Default Re: Extra Negativ which makes it Positive

Very interesting! :-) Looks handy for some watch curves as well, where the curve goes up close to the crone. :-)
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